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Hello, Unfortunately I had the keys to my slightly modified 1999
Renault clio, Stolen from a garag when it was having some work done on
it, I've got the car back, But I have decided that it maybe time for a
new car.

I have done some research and got some insurance quotes. I dont care
about performance, I am 18 years old with only a few months experience
under mybelt, so I dont want too much power. I do however want luxeries
such as electric windows etc etc etc. I also want a 3 door model. Now
to my knowledge they dont make a Black Mk 4 3 door in a 1.6 engine? I
maybe wrong. I have got some suprisingly cheap insurane quotes on a Mk
4 3 Door 1.4 S. I know the specification on this model is somewhat
pointless (14 seconds to 60) But the insurance is cheap.

Anyway. I'm into my modified cars, And I think the first place to
start is the wheels. I want 20" wheels and slam it.. I know my
acceleration is going to be rediculous, But I was wondering what type
of arch work is necessary to get 20's on a1.4S? I want to go VERY low
as well, I know my friend didnt need any arch work getting 19's on his
bora, but is there any difference with a 20" rim on a Golf?

Also, will I be able to go low enough with just a set of coilovers, or
wiould I be better off just splashing out on a set of spunky Air Bag
suspension?

Remember, Performance isnt the key here. I just want to be rollin on dubs :)

Many thanks

Keith Powell
 

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This is all in my opinion of course, but what difference does 1" make?, why not just stick with 19s and not have to go though all the hassle of paying to have all that arch work done, paying for silly suspension and stupid tyre prices?. I've just checked for tyres you would be looking at around ?180 per corner (and that's for a cheap set), plus the price of the wheels.

Then take into consideration all the extra weight the car has to lug about (The compressor for the suspension, the wheels etc), poor little 1.4 engine would hardly be able to cope.

For the money it would cost to have a 1.4 Golf on 20's/air bag suspension, you would have should enough money to insure a 2.0 GTI on 19's and have the best of both worlds.

I'm sure you would soon get fedup of the 20 second 0-60 time and all the 50cc scooters overtaking you [:D]

I haven't been driving all that long and i'm insured on a 20v Turbo Mk4, insurance isn't all that bad (less than ?900 fully comp).

But at the end of the day, each to their own [;)]
 

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Then take into consideration all the extra
weight the car has to lug about (The compressor for the suspension, the
wheels etc), poor little 1.4 engine would hardly be able to
cope.
65BHP + 20"s = Bad idea. Probably downright dangerous actually and very
Kev. Not to mention it will look awful. Echo the above, go with 19"s if
you want big - plenty big enough, noa rch work and the tyres will be a
bargain in comparison.
 

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65BHP + 20"s = Bad idea.
Actually it's 75hp... as if that wasn't bad enough, don't take another 10 off! [:'(]

Rollin, have you driven a 1.4 yet? If you could drive one with standard
wheels, & then one with 18"s, I think you'd soon chance your mind
about going for the 20s... just IMO from driving one every day
 

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Maybe 19's then. I've saw the wheels i want, They are ?2400 + tyres :(
2 Piece Split Rims, Not available in the UK. Although I am sure I can
find soem similar looking 1 Piece ones for cheaper!

The wheels will be the centre piece of the car, So I dont mind spending the money on the wheels and tyres.

My cureent car has 55bhp and is on 18's lol.

I suppose If I get 19's, FK Coilovers, and Uprated bushes and anti roll
bars, the car will look good and wont be as bad to drive.

Is any arch work required for the 19's when lowerign it substantially?

I want to fit an R32 Kit, Delock and DeHandle it, take off the bump
strips, subtle bad boy on the bonnet, Fully smooth the boot and get
Tints all round. Then Get a nice set of Misano Seats, Re trim the back
seats to match and hasve my existing alpine system fibreglassed in :)

Does the 1.4 have drums on the back?

Hopefully I will havethe car looking how i want in 2-3 years. Then
Hopefully insurance will be cheap enough to bolt in a turbo'd lump
:)
 

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I think it would just be MUCH cheaper to keep your car for 2-3 years, save up some cash, and then buy a 1.8T.

IMHO any car with an engine conversion (be it a 1.8T lump into an 1.4 Golf) will never be as reliable, or as cheap to build, as the real deal itself.
 

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With the amount of money it would cost to do all the work you mention, surely you afford to buy and insure a decent Mkiv?

I take it you still live at home with your parents?
 

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Sticking 20's on the car will make the ride unbearable. Add ontop
of that a suspension/ride height drop, you're gonna rattle the car to
pieces LOL!

one thing is for sure...put big wheels on a car, u better make sure big
brakes are on the shopping list! Nothing looks sillier than big
wheels with incy wincy brakes!
 

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really i dont see the point in getting 20s as for all the reasons that have been stated above, with that extra cash you spend on getting the 20s and archwork and all other mods you can get insured on a standard 1.8t. not only that you will get annoying nova saxo boys etc tailing your ass egging you on to race them but you will have a very hard time picking up speed. save the money for insurance to put towards 1.8t. :D
 

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Maybe 19's then. I've saw the wheels i want, They are ?2400 + tyres :( 2 Piece Split Rims, Not available in the UK. Although I am sure I can find soem similar looking 1 Piece ones for cheaper!

The wheels will be the centre piece of the car, So I dont mind spending the money on the wheels and tyres.

I want to fit an R32 Kit, Delock and DeHandle it, take off the bump strips, subtle bad boy on the bonnet, Fully smooth the boot and get Tints all round. Then Get a nice set of Misano Seats, Re trim the back seats to match and hasve my existing alpine system fibreglassed in :)
I am guessing you are a lottery winner to afford all this?
 

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I read all the way through this thread. More money than sense (?) immediately springs to mind. Sorry. But I do agree with the majority here....why don't you just buy a 1.8T and put some nice Audi A8 alloys (or similar) which comes in 18" and 19" sizes. I think this comes out much cheaper than what you are planning. I also don't really see the point of 20" on a 1.4 Golf cos you'll defo get the Vaxhalls and the like chasing after you. 20's on lowered suspension will shake the chassis to bits (as was said earlier). Plus, I didn't know a 1.4 has the power to rotate 20" alloys let alone stop them!

~ Maxie
 

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Yep, agreed, you say about not wanting to pay insurance and then you state you have found wheels for ?2400!!!! What!? Insurance would be a lot cheaper than that and you would have a nicer car! That's only your wheels, your talking of spending about 4 grand!
 

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OK folks, just to give you an idea of how OTT and tacky 20's will look, take a look at these! [:'(]

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If you're thinking of doing it....... DON'T! [:$]
 
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