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An obvious mod for any T owner, however who and what to use?

Jabba v JBS v REVO v APR v AMD ?????

Each outfit will swear that they have invested 000s of hours etc etc to ensure that they've got the best solution!

So, what's the low down on these tuners?

What experiences have you guys had?

Is there a clear winner over the others?

Recommendations?
 

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in the past i've used. APR, and AMD.. both good but im going to go for the remap that chip wizard offer in rochdale..

the green lupo has gave me physical evidence that they are the best company to go for..

revo etc give a really crap dyno read with loads of peaks and falls in the curve...
 

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in the past i've used. APR, and AMD.. both good but im going to go for the remap that chip wizard offer in rochdale..
Rochdale! that's only 20 mins away from me, where abouts are you from? [:O]
 

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I have a Jabbasport Map on my car and it produces similar figures to GaryM's car (with the sane bolt ons), the car drives fantastically and is very smooth. Also worth looking at MRC Tuning for custom remapping.
 

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IMO. Think you will find they all are a much of a much, the big dif will be in the customer care.

I can say JBS will look after you.
 

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A big thumbs up here for the Revo [Y][Y][Y]

Had it about a year and still loving it. Fast, reliable and the options of stage 2 & 3 at a later date.[:)]
 

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Recommendations?
Depends on your engine code and what you want really...

Upsolute are probably the best bang for buck (recommended for AGU) and
a good value map if you're happy staying around 190-200bhp. Although on
an AGU to get much more you'll probably have to uprate the turbo.

Revo, Jabba, CustomCode would be good options if you plan on pushing to 220+

I've got upsolute on an arz and with an n75j fitted it's pretty sweet -
feels fairly rapid, no idea of the bhp but it is quicker than (what I
presume was a standard) 180bhp TT.
 

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I have a Jabbasport Map on my car and it
produces similar figures to GaryM's car (with the sane bolt ons), the
car drives fantastically and is very smooth. Also worth looking
at MRC Tuning for custom remapping.
Have you got a RR printout?

I wouldnt mind seeing others to compare where power is and drops off.
 

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Interesting - i have a 2001 1.8T, so DBW VVT AUM code.

Revo quote around 212 hp - but how smooth a curve does it produce?

JBS and other "rolling road" operatives quote around 200ish.

I guess much of a muchness in most respects.

First off, the only mods of any note prior to the tune will be a CAI. I
guess it would be better for it to be remapped when the CAI is on
rather than with the standard air box?

Another thing that occurred is whether the diverter valve should be upgraded prior to the tune as well?

I've heard a standard TT DV is good enough - quite a few here have gone with Forge and the like.

Thoughts on this?
 

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Have you got a RR printout?

I wouldnt mind seeing others to compare where power is and drops off.
Unfortunately I don't have any that recent power plots, just a few from
Jabbasport which were done a while ago, am going to get the car dyno'd
at Starperformance in the next few weeks (On their MAHA load based 4wd
Dyno), so will be sure to put the results up along with a list of mod's
in thechief's thread on porformance mods/power etc in the tuning forum.
 

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Good stuff, I look forward to that.

I think you'll see realistic whp figures but going off previous maps
you may see inflated flywheel figures as one I have just been looking
at claims 51bhp losses - that would make my car 277bhp!!!!

Robdon's is the car I refer to.

He showed wheelpower as 233whp, add losses of 51bhp and you get 284bhp
then add some silly correction factor and you get 293bhp!!!

For god's sake he only has 7whp more than me!!!

Anyway, we all know that flywheel figures are as much use as a chocolate fireguard.

Its the wheelpower figures that are important and what we base our cars performance on.
 

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Robdon's is the car I refer to.

He showed wheelpower as 233whp, add losses of 51bhp and you get 284bhp
then add some silly correction factor and you get 293bhp!!!

For god's sake he only has 7whp more than me!!!
Yeah their dyno does seem to show unusually high transmision losses, I
agree there's something not right there. I can't decide whether to go
there or to Dastek's headquarters as they're both about the same
distance from me. I do however believe that Robdon's car has got
270 - 280 bhp at the flywheel due to him using a hybrid K04, similar to
the AM04 with a 3mm larger compressor wheel than a K03's, which is
about the same as the difference between the K03 and the K03S.
 

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rjh im from warrington myself.

go on awesome gti and have a look at all the dyno plots and each car has what its done to it.. revo you will notice that it has a very irratic curve but the lupo from chip wizard is a great smooth curve...
 

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Its all depends how you drive your car. Custom maps can take your driving style into consideration.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>

All the major tuners will produce around about the same power depending on mods. I guess they?ll try to have a nice curve<o:p></o:p>

We all know about Rolling Roads regarding power plots, so I won't go into that. My personal opinion its how it drive?s on the road.

Why not try MRC tuning. The Audi guys think highly of the remaps

Jabba is good knows his 1.8T?s. They can tweak the remap to your driving style

REVO are good because their network of dealers around the country. They offer various maps for the 1.8T.

TT DV will help depending on what the remap you go for

Why not get the free 5 hour Revo trial
 

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I do however believe that Robdon's car has got
270 - 280 bhp at the flywheel due to him using a hybrid K04, similar to
the AM04 with a 3mm larger compressor wheel than a K03's, which is
about the same as the difference between the K03 and the K03S.
Thats true but its only netted him 7whp more than a well tuned K03sport which is one of the points I was trying to make.

I am now of the opinion that you will not see accurate flywheel power figures anywhere, there are just too many variables.

Wheelpower is what we should be looking at, especially on rolling road days for comparison against other cars.

I think this is pretty much one of the only things I will agree with the Americans on!!
 

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go on awesome gti and have a look at all the dyno plots and each car
has what its done to it.. revo you will notice that it has a very
irratic curve but the lupo from chip wizard is a great smooth curve...
I never saw an erratic curve on any dyno when I had Revo software.
 

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Gary makes, as always a very good point, but IMO it depends on what you want, if your going from 150 to 200 + you will be smiling when you drive off, no matter who has tuned it, If you have been looked after by them
 

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